{"id":10148965384507,"title":"Rope Marker","handle":"arete-rope-marker","description":"\u003cp\u003eHigh-quality permanent markers made in Germany. Quick-drying, low-odor, refillable*, and can mark a large range of materials. The ink is waterproof and wear-resistant on almost all surfaces.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cem\u003e\"Can I use ----- to mark my rope?\"\u003c\/em\u003e has been a topic of hot discussion. We've decided on choosing \u003cstrong\u003eedding 3000\u003c\/strong\u003e (3300 is just a chisel-tip) because there is already multiple sources of discussion\/information on them, and we've done our own internal testing \u0026amp; reasoning. \u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eSources on the use of edding marker:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003cspan style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\" rel=\"noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.alpenverein.de\/artikel\/nutzungsdauer-karabiner-seile-helme-klettersteigsets_a1acb469-ec21-4718-a487-9facc2f821d7#lebensdauer-versus-gebrauchsdauer\" target=\"_blank\"\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eDAV \u003c\/strong\u003e(German) - 2023\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\n\u003cspan style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\" rel=\"noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.mammut.com\/us\/en\/support\/product-support\/care-instructions\/ropes\" target=\"_blank\"\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eMammut \u003c\/strong\u003e(Swiss)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003cspan style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cic-canyoning.org\/en\/news\/newsarticle\/Rope-marking-with-Edding-3000.html\"\u003e\u003cb id=\"docs-internal-guid-e1b37ef3-7fff-c0ce-73d2-e9ff4199be04\"\u003eCIC Canyoning Org \u003c\/b\u003e(German) - 2010\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\n\u003cspan style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\" rel=\"noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.mountainproject.com\/forum\/topic\/106073455\/acceptable-rope-marking-pens\" target=\"_blank\"\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eMountain Project\u003c\/strong\u003e discussion\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan style=\"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);\"\u003e(third-hand info)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003cspan style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\" href=\"https:\/\/faq.edding.com\/textiles\/412660-which-edding-markers-can-be-used-for-life-safety-ropes-and-safety-straps?kb_language=en_GB\"\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eedding\u003c\/strong\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eLet's discuss ink:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eAccording to the most recent (2023) Safety Data Sheets available online, the edding 3000, 3300 and the 8040 laundry marker ink use the same chemicals. We emailed edding several times to see if we could get more current ones, but we have not received a reply as of yet. The safety data sheets are generally more applicable for dealing with larger volumes of the ink.  \u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\n\u003cspan style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/cdn.shopify.com\/s\/files\/1\/0797\/6681\/5035\/files\/edding_3000_black_2023_german.PDF?v=1754888939\" style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003eSDS edding 3000\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e (German)\u003cspan style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003cspan style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/cdn.shopify.com\/s\/files\/1\/0797\/6681\/5035\/files\/edding_8040_laundry_2023.pdf?v=1754888874\" style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003eSDS edding 8040\u003c\/a\u003e \u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eOur tests: We used 7 samples and 1 control. 6 of the samples were marked with between 0.09 g - 0.14 g of ink, (what a normal amount would be when marking the middle). 1 sample had about 2 g of ink. It was very saturated, more than what should be put on a rope and felt stiff. Samples 1, 2, 3 were left in the sun for about 1 week, while samples 4 -7 were left inside.  In our pull tests, they all broke in the knot. \u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eNote: \u003c\/strong\u003eOthers have noticed when a large amount of \u003cem\u003eany \u003c\/em\u003e\"rope marker\" ink is applied, it can cause the rope to feel stiffer in that area.  \u003cspan style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/www.ukclimbing.com\/forums\/starting_out\/stiff_rope_opinion-705382\" style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003eUKC Forum\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cspan style=\"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);\"\u003e*The edding 3000 and 3300 markers are refillable but the 8040 is not. \u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e","published_at":"2025-09-18T08:24:22-07:00","created_at":"2025-08-10T13:04:12-07:00","vendor":"Arete","type":"Accessory","tags":["Accessories","Arete","Climbing Accessory","Rope Care","Sport","Sport and Non Bolters+"],"price":425,"price_min":425,"price_max":460,"available":true,"price_varies":true,"compare_at_price":null,"compare_at_price_min":0,"compare_at_price_max":0,"compare_at_price_varies":false,"variants":[{"id":50491791245627,"title":"3000 (round tip 1.5 mm - 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5 mm) \/ Black","option1":"3300 (chisel tip 1 mm - 5 mm)","option2":"Black","option3":null,"sku":"2823-02~67845732","requires_shipping":true,"taxable":true,"featured_image":{"id":55991159456059,"product_id":10148965384507,"position":5,"created_at":"2025-09-18T08:23:22-07:00","updated_at":"2025-09-18T08:24:59-07:00","alt":"id=[50491791278395]","width":3024,"height":3024,"src":"\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/IMG_5851.png?v=1758209099","variant_ids":[50491791278395]},"available":false,"name":"Rope Marker - 3300 (chisel tip 1 mm - 5 mm) \/ Black","public_title":"3300 (chisel tip 1 mm - 5 mm) \/ Black","options":["3300 (chisel tip 1 mm - 5 mm)","Black"],"price":425,"weight":20,"compare_at_price":null,"inventory_management":"shopify","barcode":"91278395","featured_media":{"alt":"id=[50491791278395]","id":45677855047995,"position":5,"preview_image":{"aspect_ratio":1.0,"height":3024,"width":3024,"src":"\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/IMG_5851.png?v=1758209099"}},"requires_selling_plan":false,"selling_plan_allocations":[],"quantity_rule":{"min":1,"max":null,"increment":1}},{"id":50491791311163,"title":"8040 Laundry Marker (round tip 1 mm) \/ Black","option1":"8040 Laundry Marker (round tip 1 mm)","option2":"Black","option3":null,"sku":"2762-01~56743234","requires_shipping":true,"taxable":true,"featured_image":{"id":55991159488827,"product_id":10148965384507,"position":6,"created_at":"2025-09-18T08:23:22-07:00","updated_at":"2025-09-18T08:23:25-07:00","alt":"id=[50491791311163]","width":3024,"height":3024,"src":"\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/8040.png?v=1758209005","variant_ids":[50491791311163]},"available":true,"name":"Rope Marker - 8040 Laundry Marker (round tip 1 mm) \/ Black","public_title":"8040 Laundry Marker (round tip 1 mm) \/ Black","options":["8040 Laundry Marker (round tip 1 mm)","Black"],"price":460,"weight":17,"compare_at_price":null,"inventory_management":"shopify","barcode":"91311163","featured_media":{"alt":"id=[50491791311163]","id":45677855080763,"position":6,"preview_image":{"aspect_ratio":1.0,"height":3024,"width":3024,"src":"\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/8040.png?v=1758209005"}},"requires_selling_plan":false,"selling_plan_allocations":[],"quantity_rule":{"min":1,"max":null,"increment":1}}],"images":["\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/family2.png?v=1758209281","\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/IMG_5855.png?v=1758209281","\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/IMG_5858.png?v=1758209281","\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/IMG_5849.png?v=1758209005","\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/IMG_5851.png?v=1758209099","\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/8040.png?v=1758209005","\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/IMG_5856.png?v=1758209005"],"featured_image":"\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/family2.png?v=1758209281","options":["Model","Color"],"media":[{"alt":null,"id":45677854982459,"position":1,"preview_image":{"aspect_ratio":1.0,"height":3024,"width":3024,"src":"\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/family2.png?v=1758209281"},"aspect_ratio":1.0,"height":3024,"media_type":"image","src":"\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/family2.png?v=1758209281","width":3024},{"alt":"id=[50491791245627]","id":45677854916923,"position":2,"preview_image":{"aspect_ratio":1.0,"height":3024,"width":3024,"src":"\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/IMG_5855.png?v=1758209281"},"aspect_ratio":1.0,"height":3024,"media_type":"image","src":"\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/IMG_5855.png?v=1758209281","width":3024},{"alt":"id=[50491791311163]","id":45677854949691,"position":3,"preview_image":{"aspect_ratio":1.0,"height":3024,"width":3024,"src":"\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/IMG_5858.png?v=1758209281"},"aspect_ratio":1.0,"height":3024,"media_type":"image","src":"\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/IMG_5858.png?v=1758209281","width":3024},{"alt":"id=[50491791278395]","id":45677855015227,"position":4,"preview_image":{"aspect_ratio":1.0,"height":3024,"width":3024,"src":"\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/IMG_5849.png?v=1758209005"},"aspect_ratio":1.0,"height":3024,"media_type":"image","src":"\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/IMG_5849.png?v=1758209005","width":3024},{"alt":"id=[50491791278395]","id":45677855047995,"position":5,"preview_image":{"aspect_ratio":1.0,"height":3024,"width":3024,"src":"\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/IMG_5851.png?v=1758209099"},"aspect_ratio":1.0,"height":3024,"media_type":"image","src":"\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/IMG_5851.png?v=1758209099","width":3024},{"alt":"id=[50491791311163]","id":45677855080763,"position":6,"preview_image":{"aspect_ratio":1.0,"height":3024,"width":3024,"src":"\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/8040.png?v=1758209005"},"aspect_ratio":1.0,"height":3024,"media_type":"image","src":"\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/8040.png?v=1758209005","width":3024},{"alt":"id=[50491791245627]","id":45677855113531,"position":7,"preview_image":{"aspect_ratio":1.0,"height":3024,"width":3024,"src":"\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/IMG_5856.png?v=1758209005"},"aspect_ratio":1.0,"height":3024,"media_type":"image","src":"\/\/hownot2.com\/cdn\/shop\/files\/IMG_5856.png?v=1758209005","width":3024}],"requires_selling_plan":false,"selling_plan_groups":[],"content":"\u003cp\u003eHigh-quality permanent markers made in Germany. Quick-drying, low-odor, refillable*, and can mark a large range of materials. The ink is waterproof and wear-resistant on almost all surfaces.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cem\u003e\"Can I use ----- to mark my rope?\"\u003c\/em\u003e has been a topic of hot discussion. We've decided on choosing \u003cstrong\u003eedding 3000\u003c\/strong\u003e (3300 is just a chisel-tip) because there is already multiple sources of discussion\/information on them, and we've done our own internal testing \u0026amp; reasoning. \u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eSources on the use of edding marker:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003cspan style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\" rel=\"noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.alpenverein.de\/artikel\/nutzungsdauer-karabiner-seile-helme-klettersteigsets_a1acb469-ec21-4718-a487-9facc2f821d7#lebensdauer-versus-gebrauchsdauer\" target=\"_blank\"\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eDAV \u003c\/strong\u003e(German) - 2023\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\n\u003cspan style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\" rel=\"noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.mammut.com\/us\/en\/support\/product-support\/care-instructions\/ropes\" target=\"_blank\"\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eMammut \u003c\/strong\u003e(Swiss)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003cspan style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cic-canyoning.org\/en\/news\/newsarticle\/Rope-marking-with-Edding-3000.html\"\u003e\u003cb id=\"docs-internal-guid-e1b37ef3-7fff-c0ce-73d2-e9ff4199be04\"\u003eCIC Canyoning Org \u003c\/b\u003e(German) - 2010\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\n\u003cspan style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\" rel=\"noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.mountainproject.com\/forum\/topic\/106073455\/acceptable-rope-marking-pens\" target=\"_blank\"\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eMountain Project\u003c\/strong\u003e discussion\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e \u003cspan style=\"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);\"\u003e(third-hand info)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003cspan style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\" href=\"https:\/\/faq.edding.com\/textiles\/412660-which-edding-markers-can-be-used-for-life-safety-ropes-and-safety-straps?kb_language=en_GB\"\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eedding\u003c\/strong\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eLet's discuss ink:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eAccording to the most recent (2023) Safety Data Sheets available online, the edding 3000, 3300 and the 8040 laundry marker ink use the same chemicals. We emailed edding several times to see if we could get more current ones, but we have not received a reply as of yet. The safety data sheets are generally more applicable for dealing with larger volumes of the ink.  \u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\n\u003cspan style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/cdn.shopify.com\/s\/files\/1\/0797\/6681\/5035\/files\/edding_3000_black_2023_german.PDF?v=1754888939\" style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003eSDS edding 3000\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e (German)\u003cspan style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003cspan style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/cdn.shopify.com\/s\/files\/1\/0797\/6681\/5035\/files\/edding_8040_laundry_2023.pdf?v=1754888874\" style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003eSDS edding 8040\u003c\/a\u003e \u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eOur tests: We used 7 samples and 1 control. 6 of the samples were marked with between 0.09 g - 0.14 g of ink, (what a normal amount would be when marking the middle). 1 sample had about 2 g of ink. It was very saturated, more than what should be put on a rope and felt stiff. Samples 1, 2, 3 were left in the sun for about 1 week, while samples 4 -7 were left inside.  In our pull tests, they all broke in the knot. \u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eNote: \u003c\/strong\u003eOthers have noticed when a large amount of \u003cem\u003eany \u003c\/em\u003e\"rope marker\" ink is applied, it can cause the rope to feel stiffer in that area.  \u003cspan style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/www.ukclimbing.com\/forums\/starting_out\/stiff_rope_opinion-705382\" style=\"color: rgb(43, 0, 255);\"\u003eUKC Forum\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cspan style=\"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);\"\u003e*The edding 3000 and 3300 markers are refillable but the 8040 is not. \u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e"}